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9 hours ago, Clauds said:

Sara - Shoulda been the new Adriana, did not happen, probably why the whole Saylor act was dropped

Romee - Shoulda been the new Candice, did not happen

Little advice to VS: it foesn't matter if they look a lot like your main bitches, it won't work if they don't have the thing that made the others stand out.:rofl:

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10 hours ago, Clauds said:

I'm shocked VS hasn't found their All-American blonde gal, they tried with Erin and Lindsay and it did not work for either of them, it's been an empty space ever since Marisa left, had they been smart enough they would have signed Brooklyn Decker or Kate Upton right before or after their SI covers.

 

That's an interesting topic to discuss as I also wondered why VS never had a typical All-American blonde bombshell as an Angel but when I brainstormed who could have been great contenders, I really couldn't think of anyone (except for Christie Brinkley, but she's clearly from another era). Erin and Lindsay are no Angel-material to me because they look too girly as opposed to womenly. Marisa looked mature enough and her personality won me over but I remember when a lot of fans thought that she looks rather like a porn star and I have too agree 😶. Brooklyn felt "too small" to be a VS Angel meaning that she looks like a model great for the LA or Miami fashion scene but nothing bigger than that even though she looked gorgeous but her career would have been stuck on literally just doing VS as her only job worth to be mentioned (like Selita's). Kate definitely got the hype but her looks has no fashion in it. She almost looks more like a pretty actress than a model.

 

As I was brainstorming and thinking about who could fill the spot today, I could only think of Hannah Ferguson, Hailey Clauson and Megan Williams. 2-3 years ago I would have counted Hannah Jeter on that list too. Can you think of anyone else? 

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2 hours ago, VSfan88 said:

 

That's an interesting topic to discuss as I also wondered why VS never had a typical All-American blonde bombshell as an Angel but when I brainstormed who could have been great contenders, I really couldn't think of anyone (except for Christie Brinkley, but she's clearly from another era). Erin and Lindsay are no Angel-material to me because they look too girly as opposed to womenly. Marisa looked mature enough and her personality won me over but I remember when a lot of fans thought that she looks rather like a porn star and I have too agree 😶. Brooklyn felt "too small" to be a VS Angel meaning that she looks like a model great for the LA or Miami fashion scene but nothing bigger than that even though she looked gorgeous but her career would have been stuck on literally just doing VS as her only job worth to be mentioned (like Selita's). Kate definitely got the hype but her looks has no fashion in it. She almost looks more like a pretty actress than a model.

 

As I was brainstorming and thinking about who could fill the spot today, I could only think of Hannah Ferguson, Hailey Clauson and Megan Williams. 2-3 years ago I would have counted Hannah Jeter on that list too. Can you think of anyone else? 

 

Say whatever you want, but Marisa was popular as fuck within American customers, she was THE model in 2008/2009, and I'm 100% sure that if VS had signed Brooklyn or Kate, it would have been the same. The average person gives zero fucks about models having a fashion background, they just want a model who is hot, cute, looks healthy, happy and friendly and Marisa was all of those things which is why she made such a big splash in the US and walked away with the Fantasy Bra in 2009. VS fucked it up by not being fast enough to replace her with Brooklyn or Kate.

 

I do think Hannah Ferguson was/still is the model VS needs to sign ASAP. She's an All-American southern girl, has also been in SI, has banging body, conventionally pretty face, she's a sweetheart, she has all the pontetial but for some reason VS is too stupid to see it:idk: 

 

 

3 hours ago, Poseidon said:

 

VS is responsible for all those girls being should-have-beens. All of them have/had huge potential but... Instead of using pics of them as sexy, bombshell girls VS gives you cute girl 1, cute girl 2, cute girl 3 and unused girl 1, unused girl 2 and unused girl 3. 

 

I 100% agree, I mean, clock the Elsa set :rofl:  I blame VS for Sara, Elsa and Jasmine not reaching their full potentials and sadly it doesn't seem like it's changing at all

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On 6/20/2019 at 4:53 PM, medicenevs said:

All the things you get to hear about Taylor on set are positive tho. VS just want her to be the bombshell of her generation of angels. 

Sadly it doesnt working tbh  she is not a bombshell of this VS generation  Tay is gorg but lacks sexyness

 Prettyphile is coming for my neck now lolol but i dont hate Taylor at all doe

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14 hours ago, Clauds said:

 

Barbara - Curvy angel, a new-found role within VS but we'll see how it goes

Taylor - Brunette bombshell, meant to fill in for Alessandra and it's working! 

Candice - Blonde bombshell, meant to fill in for Karolina Kurkova and it worked! 

Elsa - Cutesy, friendly blonde, your bff, shoulda been the new Heidi, did not happen

Stella - Edgy Angel, IMO another new aesthetic VS wanted to try and I think it works, she does add something different.

Lais - Token Brazilian Angel, there's gotta be a Brazilian bombshell in there

Jasmine - African American bombshell, shoulda been the new Tyra, did not happen

Alexina - The other cutesy, goofy Angel, could aso be your best friend, also finally the redhead angel.

Leomie - The extra one, loud as fuck, Brit with wits. Another gig VS is trying for the first time, we'll see how it goes

Grace - The classy one, I'm guessing VS would want to mold her as the new Gisele-esque model.

Jo - The sporty, friendly one, "one of the boys" 

Sara - Shoulda been the new Adriana, did not happen, probably why the whole Saylor act was dropped

Romee - Shoulda been the new Candice, did not happen

 

I'm shocked VS hasn't found their All-American blonde gal, they tried with Erin and Lindsay and it did not work for either of them, it's been an empty space ever since Marisa left, had they been smart enough they would have signed Brooklyn Decker or Kate Upton right before or after their SI covers.

Martha - All-American blonde pretty face and sweat personality. 

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I'm so happy that Barbara is an angel! It took way too long. She's by far the most gorgeous angel they have right now, and I hope this is the start of VS hiring more "curvier" models. To me Barbara is the down to earth angel, but at the same time so gorgeous. She reminds me of Behati when she started out, Behati was also curvier back then, then she turned into a skeleton, ugh.

 

^Martha is not a bombshell. She's average with no personality. I never notice her.

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10 hours ago, MarVS said:

Sadly it doesnt working tbh  she is not a bombshell of this VS generation  Tay is gorg but lacks sexyness

 Prettyphile is coming for my neck now lolol but i dont hate Taylor at all doe

Well, that's just a matter of opinion at the end but, she may not be my definition of bombshell but she is a bombshell to a lot of people, so... It seems to be working the way VS wanted.:idk:

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2 hours ago, johannis said:

I'm so happy that Barbara is an angel! It took way too long. She's by far the most gorgeous angel they have right now, and I hope this is the start of VS hiring more "curvier" models. To me Barbara is the down to earth angel, but at the same time so gorgeous. She reminds me of Behati when she started out, Behati was also curvier back then, then she turned into a skeleton, ugh.

 

^Martha is not a bombshell. She's average with no personality. I never notice her.

I agree with this whole statement. I loved most of Behati's work with VS, but I did like how she looked before she lost all that weight. I thought her modeling improved when she lost it all, though. I feel like Barbara won't go down that road because she is known for being curvy adn it seems like VS is finally on that trend, so I hope she can keep her weight on. 

 

I notice people forget Martha a lot and I always hope that means she's been dropped but sadly she's still around. 

 

and Taylor as a bombshell....I thought she was at first, but over the years she doesn't have it anymore, at least not to me. but then again I had never seen pictures of her smiling for VS until a few days ago, so maybe she has recent bombshell style picture that I just haven't seen. 

 

when I think of bombshell I think: Candice, Adriana (even though she's not pretty, imo), Alessandra, Tyra, Rosie, Barbara, Doutzen (sometimes)...

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7 minutes ago, Top-modèle196 said:

In Cara's trevor project speech she said hype up being happy/excited at the vsfs shows she walked in lol. So all that excitement backstage isn't completely genuine (not that anyone here thought it was)  

Accurate. It's one of the biggest reasons there are certain models you won't see a lot of backstage pictures.If they're not giving the "energy" photographers feel they can sell, they don't photograph them. The first year Taylor was all over backstage, and since then she spends most of her time getting in the zone and listening to music, same with Elsa, Stella, and Martha. They don't "ham" it up like some of the regulars you see every single year.

 

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13 minutes ago, Prettyphile said:

Accurate. It's one of the biggest reasons there are certain models you won't see a lot of backstage pictures.If they're not giving the "energy" photographers feel they can sell, they don't photograph them. The first year Taylor was all over backstage, and since then she spends most of her time getting in the zone and listening to music, same with Elsa, Stella, and Martha. They don't "ham" it up like some of the regulars you see every single year.

 

I always wondered why there where more pictures of the regulars/newbies than from some of the angels.:rofl:

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21 hours ago, MarVS said:

Sadly it doesnt working tbh  she is not a bombshell of this VS generation  Tay is gorg but lacks sexyness

 Prettyphile is coming for my neck now lolol but i dont hate Taylor at all doe

 

I don't think Taylor believes she is sexy and does not have the confidence of a sexy woman but is very attractive and can be sexy.........However, she does not exude "sex" like the previous bombshells or women in the entertainment industry. Sexy is an energy which cannot be made or replicated. Ie; Mila Jocovich, Barbara P., Adriana Lima, Naomi Campbell etc., ....at Taylor's age....before they were supers.

Based on BTS footage of Taylor Hill....she comes off very insecure and needs alot of reassurance from everyone.

 

EDIT: I think Taylor could really shine but I think everyone around her and the other angels are projecting negative energy onto her so she does not outshine them....make her second guess or not think she is good enough....or can be great...esp. Jasmine Tookes.

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6 minutes ago, DULOVEMEDO said:

 

Based on BTS footage of Taylor Hill....she comes off very insecure and needs alot of reassurance from everyone.

 

I’ve been there, at her age. Introverts seem to be insecure, and unsure of ourselves, but it is just how we are. 

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1 minute ago, CandleVixen said:

 

I’ve been there, at her age. Introverts seem to be insecure, and unsure of ourselves, but it is just how we are. 

 

I'm introvert and extremely confident. Honestly, It depends on your sun, moon, and rising sign as well as which sign dominates your chart the most. But her insecurities are not even her own insecurities. It is other people projecting that energy onto her.....alot of controlling and manipulating people around her. Whelp, she'll come out of it within 2 years....then boom the rebirth Taylor Hill because that is usually how life goes.

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33 minutes ago, DULOVEMEDO said:

 

I'm introvert and extremely confident. Honestly, It depends on your sun, moon, and rising sign as well as which sign dominates your chart the most. But her insecurities are not even her own insecurities. It is other people projecting that energy onto her.....alot of controlling and manipulating people around her. Whelp, she'll come out of it within 2 years....then boom the rebirth Taylor Hill because that is usually how life goes.

True. 

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Introverted behavior can be caused from not caring at all about the other people in question.  

 

Extroverted behavior can be also caused from a deep need for the approval of others (attention whoring, dancing monkey, comedian, etc.).  really a type of insecurity

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So maybe what I saw as Taylor being miserable was Taylor just being uncomfortable and insecure. I agree with the above statements about her introversion and people projecting onto her. I figured she's also go to be nervous for somethings, like she was terrible at opening the show last year but she looked so scared!!! Poor thing, but she'll get it over. 

 

She can totally be a bombshell, but she has such a childlike vibe a lot of the time, although like I said she can definitely amp up the sexiness. She just seems more at home in the happy/smiley department. 

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