Stromboli1 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Enrico_sw said: Once again, who cares about Star Wars, in the end? I think that you forget that the main grief is that it was a SJW movie. Star Wars is famous, that's why this one is more discussed, but it's a general tendency. This movie was disliked by the audience (cf. Rotten Tomatoes, 44% liked it), but the counter argument in the media is that.... "Russian trollbots dit it" There were several other things that were more main griefs,; fans were pissed about Luke's character and how he went out, Rey being trained for a day, Leia's Mary Poppins space flight, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael* Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Honestly, aside from people justifiably pointing to the space casino stuff (which was a bit laborious) or the Super Leia scene (which was just a bit naff), the vast majority of complaints against Last Jedi basically amount to either 'it's not the Star Wars of old' or 'it's not how I would have done it'. I actually think if you compare the arc of Force Awakens and Last Jedi with that of New Hope and Empire, they're very similar. The sequel moves away from what's gone before and ends with the heroes in dire straits, and is also perhaps the least fun to watch in isolation. Indeed, when Empire first came out, a lot of fans weren't sure what to make of it and many hated it. It was too dark, didn't wrap things up, Luke is mutilated and Han is written off. We're literally seeing the same reactions now as the current generation's ROTJ is about to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchkiki Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I've seen NONE of these movies life is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkjk Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromboli1 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Michael* said: Honestly, aside from people justifiably pointing to the space casino stuff (which was a bit laborious) or the Super Leia scene (which was just a bit naff), the vast majority of complaints against Last Jedi basically amount to either 'it's not the Star Wars of old' or 'it's not how I would have done it'. I actually think if you compare the arc of Force Awakens and Last Jedi with that of New Hope and Empire, they're very similar. The sequel moves away from what's gone before and ends with the heroes in dire straits, and is also perhaps the least fun to watch in isolation. Indeed, when Empire first came out, a lot of fans weren't sure what to make of it and many hated it. It was too dark, didn't wrap things up, Luke is mutilated and Han is written off. We're literally seeing the same reactions now as the current generation's ROTJ is about to come out. The fans wanted Super EU Luke and to see ol greeny in action, they only got ol greeny in two different short pov flashback scenes. The Finn arc in TLJ was garbage, shoulda just left him in hibernation to wake up at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stormbringer Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I’m never drinking vodka again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michael* Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Stromboli1 said: The fans wanted Super EU Luke and to see ol greeny in action, they only got ol greeny in two different short pov flashback scenes. The Finn arc in TLJ was garbage, shoulda just left him in hibernation to wake up at the end. There are a lot of unanswered questions about the Finn arc, but honestly, I think how good it is will only really be known in retrospect. After Force Awakens, I was hoping to see Phasma become his biggest rival over the course of the next two movies as I like the idea of the rebel Stormtrooper pitted against his old boss, a wildcard looking for revenge. There's no reason why that can't still happen, and if they throw in a few more interactions between Finn and Poe, I'll put the whole thing down as a win. In general too, I think the way Episode 9 wraps things up can potentially help TLJ settle into a place in the mythos. As the middle part of a trilogy, it really needs the context of a conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromboli1 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I don't care about the character of Phasma at all. The TFA panel made it seem like she was to be a major character in the sequel trilogy. The character has less than 5 minutes of total screen time in two movies and was supposedly killed in each movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cult Icon Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 she was Brienna of Tarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromboli1 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Who cares as her character sucks for as much hype as it got on the panel before TFA came out. Phasma is the sequel trilogy's Boba Fett without having an effect on the plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cult Icon Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 ^ I know, that's all she really is lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromboli1 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 18 minutes ago, Kane said: I bet the conversations there are riveting as well as the vapidity of the people there. I wonder what the net worth is of the people there are, gotta be in the billions? I'm sure the drug game there is insane, dealers probably make a killing at Coachella. I do like the knee high boot trend there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Stromboli1 said: I bet the conversations there are riveting as well as the vapidity of the people there. I wonder what the net worth is of the people there are, gotta be in the billions? I'm sure the drug game there is insane, dealers probably make a killing at Coachella. I do like the knee high boot trend there too. Coachella is the fakest festival, the majority if people aren't even there for the music. The go just to say they were there.. the net worth has to be ridiculous! Its for sure in the billions. I'd love to know how much in total brands are paying for all their models. It seemed like Revolve had every model I follow at their event yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cult Icon Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 sounds like torture, listening to all that horrible music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromboli1 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kane said: Coachella is the fakest festival, the majority if people aren't even there for the music. The go just to say they were there.. the net worth has to be ridiculous! Its for sure in the billions. I'd love to know how much in total brands are paying for all their models. It seemed like Revolve had every model I follow at their event yesterday. The music is terrible anyway. I bet it was an all expenses paid trip and are getting paid to be there. So I will say $50K-$100K, probably way more for the top models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromboli1 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cult Icon said: sounds like torture, listening to all that horrible music A lot of people are getting paid a shitload of money to be there so they can assail their ears for a few days/week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stromboli1 said: I bet it was an all expenses paid trip and are getting paid to be there. So I will say $50K-$100K, probably way more for the top models. per model?! 🤯 never thought it was that high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stromboli1 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I'm totally guessing on the money, but they're probably paid top dollar to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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