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LA Times article about Oscar voters having to choose between  Once & Irishmen , and who Glen Whipp thinks has the advantage :p 

 

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West vs. East: ‘Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood’ and ‘The Irishman’ slug it out

“The Irishman” vs. “Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood.” It’s Scorsese vs. Tarantino. DiCaprio vs. De Niro. East Coast vs. West Coast.

Extended movie running times vs. tragically weak bladders.

For the moment at least, this year’s Oscar race for best picture appears to be a showdown between two movies made by motormouth masters: Tarantino’s meditation on the last gasp of Old Hollywood and Scorsese’s summation and possible farewell to the crime drama genre he helped define.

How do you choose? If you’re a moviegoer, you don’t have to. You count your blessings and pray that a theater chain within a 50-mile radius of your house is showing “The Irishman” so you can see it properly before it lands on Netflix.

But if you’re an academy voter who loves both films, you’re going to eventually have to choose. Over and over again. Because the two movies are going to go head to head in several categories at the upcoming Oscars.

I already mentioned leads Leonardo DiCaprio and Robert De Niro. Then you have Al Pacino and Joe Pesci (again, how do you choose?) trying to make headway against Brad Pitt’s golden turn as faithful stuntman Cliff Booth in “Hollywood” for supporting actor. (And, yes, Pitt should be in the lead. We’ll talk about that some other time.)

 

Both movies also are likely to land nominations for director, cinematography, film editing, production design and costume design. And since their primary (though, assuredly, not only) demographic is men old enough to smile at the memory of seeing “Taxi Driver” in a movie theater, it’s likely that there’s going to be a lot of brow-furrowing when they’re marking that final ballot.

Are there some intangibles that might play on voters’ emotions and give one of these great films an advantage at the Oscars? I’m glad you asked. Kick up your (bare) feet, grab yourself a loaf of prosciutto bread and some red wine and let’s take a look.

 

STYLE

In the wake of “Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood’s” release, a torrent of style guides were unleashed, helping us make like Rick Dalton and Cliff Booth and Sharon Tate. You may well be reading this wearing a bright Hawaiian shirt layered over a faded Champion T-shirt and a pair of aviator sunglasses. Or maybe you’re rocking a groovy pair of calf-length boots. One thing’s for certain: Once the weather dips below, say, 80 degrees in L.A. (happy holidays!), the number of brown leather jackets on the streets is going to be a real problem.

The only style item in “The Irishman” likely to show up in any “where to buy” guides is the boxy black hat Pesci has been wearing to the film’s premieres. And the movie makes it painfully clear what it thinks about Cliff Booth’s casualwear ethos when Anthony “Tony Pro” Provenzano shows up (late) wearing a Hawaiian shirt for a meeting with Pacino’s Jimmy Hoffa.

“YOU’RE 15 MINUTES LATE AND YOU’RE WEARING SHORTS???” Pacino bellows.

Due respect.

Advantage: “Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood”

 

VERACITY

Tarantino seamlessly blends fact and fiction in “Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood,” putting the film’s central character, DiCaprio’s struggling actor Rick Dalton, next door to newlyweds Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski’s Cielo Drive rental home, having Cliff Booth confronting Manson Family members at Spahn Ranch and showing Tate tooling around Westwood and catching her movie “The Wrecking Crew.” It culminates in a glorious fireball of revisionist history, a fairy-tale ending for its princess heroine.

Nothing we see happen in “The Irishman” may be true. Something happened to Teamsters leader Jimmy Hoffa, but we don’t know if mob foot soldier Frank Sheeran (De Niro) had anything to do with it. And Sheeran’s claim that he killed gangster Joey Gallo seems even more far-fetched. (Bob Dylan didn’t mention him in his song “Joey.”)

Scorsese doesn’t care about any of this, saying “The Irishman” isn’t about facts but rather the “emotional truth” of the journey Sheeran takes over decades, a passage that ends with a clear-eyed gaze into an existential abyss. Death is the only truth that abides in this movie.

Advantage: “Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood

 

APPEAL OUTSIDE THE DAD DEMO

Margot Robbie’s Sharon Tate doesn’t say a lot in “Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood,” but her spirit hovers over the entire movie. You could even argue that it exists simply to restore her life.

 

Women are entirely in the background in “The Irishman.” Anna Paquin, playing Frank Sheeran’s disapproving daughter, is the film’s highest-billed woman — and she has one line in the movie. Now, it’s a hell of a line and she spends much of the movie fixing her father with expressions of horror and contempt. But that doesn’t change the fact that this is a movie about men that will be seen primarily by men.

Advantage: “Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood”

 

FOOD

OK. Neither of these movies is “Big Night” or “Babette’s Feast.” And “Kraft Mac & Cheese a la Cliff Booth” is going to haunt me the rest of my life because of the way he pours on the packaged cheese powder without adding any liquid or margarine. Rick Dalton, at the very least, would have added a whiskey sour.

But “Once Upon a Time … in Hollywood” does shine a spotlight on two landmark L.A. Mexican food institutions: El Coyote and Casa Vega. Also: drinks at Musso & Frank! As far as I know, no one has been murdered at any of these places, making them preferable to that Little Italy clam house where Gallo gets whacked in “The Irishman.”

ADVANTAGE: “Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood”

 

OVERALL VIBES

Tarantino’s movie takes place in the L.A. sunshine, where a couple of buddies cruise around town in a creamy Cadillac Coupe de Ville. No traffic. No cellphones. Just Paul Revere & the Raiders playing on Boss Radio station KHJ with the pervading air of wistful nostalgia filling the lungs.

“The Irishman” opens with a tracking shot of a nursing home and ends with De Niro shopping for his own coffin. It’s ... contemplative. And sobering. The clock is ticking. You can’t stop the inevitable. But that doesn’t mean we can’t continue to be in denial about it.

Advantage: “Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood.”

 

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Leo sighting Tuesday night at his girlfriend Camila's after party for Mickey and the Bear

 

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2019/11/mickeys-monkey-as-in-emotional-addiction/

 

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The screening happened at San Vicente Bungalows. There was a nice, not-too-crowded after-party. DiCaprio held court, and Indiewire‘s Eric Kohn and I spoke to him about several topics (the forthcoming Killers of the Flower Moon for director Martin Scorsese, the Democratic Presidential contenders, climate change) for a good…oh, 15 or even 20 minutes. Nobody was trying to muscle in, which was unexpected. Morrone was there also, of course — very gifted andgracious. Ditto screenwriter Eric Roth, director Phillip Noyce, Tobey Maguire, director Eli Roth, event maestro Colleen Camp, etc.

 

Jeff Wells mentioned in the comments what Leo talked about

 

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So what did DiCaprio say about Killers of the Flower Moon?

Jeffrey Wells  

He told me about it excitedly, as if he was pitching it. He went through the basic history (a moralistic period thriller set in 1920s Oklahoma, oil-rich Native Americans being killed by resentful racist locals, early FBI steps in and unpeels the situation). It sounded terrific.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SexyLeo91 said:

That candle's still burning, huh?😁

I wonder if he's following his Gisele/Bar pattern with her.  I love Leo ❤️ and don't even care that he can be a little bit messy sometimes. LOL just realized you could actually be talking about the candle... thought you meant his relationship. #I'mnuts

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