Joe > Average Posted October 26, 2010 Share Posted October 26, 2010 And of course you have other articles but may I point out that these have rather economic interests related to them (like a plastic surgeon) :Stating that men prefer larger breasts Fair enough. Besides...all these studies are based on a Western point of view since breast size seems to be less of an issue in other cultures. Good point . Though ironically the men's magazines with the biggest requirements are in Europe I think, those being the increasingly popular Nuts and Zoo Magazines ect. where DD if not slightly more are average size for their models. Large bosom is also becoming increasingly popular in Japanes men's mags too... But to explain where I got my statement from here some sites:One site Another site Another site The first two also don't seem to mention how many men were surveyed to form said opinion and the third is an anonymous online poll, so women can also vote... You do not need to explain scientific research to me Joe. I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself thank you. It was just that I was too bored to go explain a simple fact other people could also just look up. My stand that the number surveyed makes a survey valid is just my general stand. The capability of said person that doesn't provide the numbers has nothing to do with it . Besides, stating your first argument and then trying to base a claim based on examples is pretty much shooting yourself in the leg. Well, be they accepted or not, I'll take my chances with examples for my points. Granted, if we bring up a statement from an external source we should give it and describe the extent of it. What do you do ? You state something and then without giving proof just name 2 people, a porn actress and a what... a singer ?? to define the general attitude towards females. I will not deny that there isn't a market for women with large breasts, like porn industry, but it is not seen as ideal or perfect girlfriend-material (or a fling must be regarded as a girlfriend) Not only did I not mention porn or music, but whereas I named two names, my example was "women who have fat bank accounts soley based on breast size", which is a lot more than two people . And my point wasn't necessarily to define a general attitude towards females, but to debate whether the original opinion was the general attitude or not based on the fact that it doesn't seem supported by many general things and I don't see a reference to how many were asked. You just assumed because I disagree that my stance is the direct opposite whereas I don't know or claim to know what the average man's ideal is. 1) I don't have an ideal size myself 2) Many women don't even wear the right size or properly fitting bra anyway. 3) Bras vary in padding and breasts vary drastically in shape and density even among the same cup sizes. 4) A lot of men can't accurately and consistently identify bra sizes anyway (partially confounded by 2 and 3. And as to no proof, you have no real proof of what's 'seen' as ideal girlfriend material or not. Not only because many don't even publicly voice their fantasies, but many people's mate isn't necessarily their ideal perfect fantasy in every aspect of looks, but other qualities factor in. Are you not forgetting that a lot of topmodels, you being an active member of bellazon.com should know, have C or smaller breasts ?? No, I didn't forget topmodels, but since we were talking about breast size, I figured women famous primarily because of their breasts in an industry driven strictly by male popularity was worth a mention. As to topmodels, fashion on the other hand, isn't driven strictly by male popularity as the other is. In fact, appealing to the average man (or even mainstream media) isn't even manditory to have success as a fashion model. You can be very successful as a fashion model and not appeal to the average man at all, so succeding in fashion has nothing to do with the issue of ideal breast size of the average man. There are quite a few models who have been told to 'lose weight because they loook too men's magazine' so that among various other things show that what the average man wants isn't their primary agenda. Fashion is just as much, if not more about appealing to women (who buy said clothes, fragrances ect.) and is definitely more about appealing to standards and demands of designers ect. than what the average man wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expresso Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I never noticed the comment! Sorry! That's really sweet of you lol I'm going to get a huge ego now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cult Icon Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 You'll have an ego the size of a small planet and the good stuff around you will soon take orbit :] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Lu Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 "condolences" i think you meant, though sympathy would be better (you are gonna have one hell of a bedside manner doc)and baby you have my hoenst sympathy. i cannot imagine the hell you are going through and i feel for you. i hope it all works out in the end. i'll say a prayer for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Is it even POSSIBLE that some actual heart felt emotion can be shown here other than sarcasm? Is it that hard?? I'm sorry baby, I really do hope things get better for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Lu Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Is it even POSSIBLE that some actual heart felt emotion can be shown here other than sarcasm? Is it that hard?? I'm sorry baby, I really do hope things get better for you.i think you know the answer to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aranka Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Is it even POSSIBLE that some actual heart felt emotion can be shown here other than sarcasm? Is it that hard?? I'm sorry baby, I really do hope things get better for you.I am sorry that through the written word the meaning of my words was misinterpreted. I did not put the "condolences" as part of mockery or sarcasm, but because I was unsure wheter or not saying condolences was really the right word.No way did I intend any sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror's Venus Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I'm so sorry Baby. I cannot even fathom what you have gone through. I honestly hope you get/feel better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 thanks guys. oh don't worry aranka, i absolutely didn't take it as a sarcasm. it sucks but what you want, this is life. A i'm malformed, B i'm hemophilian and my skin is very bad and C this stupid implant fail after near of 6 years. i hate implant, but i'm obligated to wear this. the fact is, few years after my operation we have discovered that many women who had been operated with implants from the same society often had this kind of problem... in 5 years it's like 10 women for 100 and now the implants are not approved anymore in europe. but this is an american company and in USA they are still approved which is a real shame because if they aren't good for europeen women, i don't think they could be good for the american ones... will be in surgery in 4 or 5 hours. eurk. hate this idea, particularly when we know my medicine against hemophilia to avoid bleeding always make me very sick (usually it can kills mornal people ). and i don't like my surgeon. when you know he didn't see the difference between a very swell breast and a normal one there is a problem... so perfect when you know he operates people and must make minutious things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Lu Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 awesome new Baby!!!!! very happy to hear itglad you are happy and pain free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 'im not "happy" of the result because i would like something i can't have, but the actual result seem to be more natural that what i had which is a pretty good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 Poor Baby. You have my love and support, as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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