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10 hours ago, Sensual said:

This David Bellemere situation. I don't really know anymore. The thing is all of the allegations seem to match up with how he has always acted, but the allegations seem to make them way overblown or make them out of context, or take how he acts the wrong way. Like for example some of the models claim he tried to kiss them, and he tends to greet people by doing a cheek kiss(no contact between the lips and anywhere on the face), and then the inappropriate touching and stuff like that. When you are not in a pose he wants you to be in, he WILL move you. All of this I completely understand why the models were uncomfortable, and if they were uncomfortable they should have been warned if they were not. Its just weird because David Bellemere has worked for VS for YEARS. Out of the all the allegations against these various photographers, Bellemere to me seems like one that is very overblown and frankly false. 

They know the difference between a photographer trying to kiss them on the cheek as a friendly greeting and a photographer going in for the lips. They’re in the fashion industry sis and work heavily with people who do this frequently, men and women. I mean come on...

All I know about David is that he shot Candice topless when she was like 17 and that’s all I needed to know about him. 

Everyone knows Lais and the rest of the gyals aren’t lying and that he’s creep. Just desperate to be edgy. 

Social media + the horrible model deductions have also helped decrease the value in being an angel. Social media has made beautiful women more accessible than ever. VS is hiring models like Lameka, Martha and Alexina meanwhile there’s far more captivating women just roaming Instagram that people can find. They are not getting enough rare beauty and presence like Taylor attached to their names, and they are no longer associated with having the best of the best. 

Do VS and Alexina really think they’re hitting some diversity mark because she has red hair...

Alexina being hired as angel just sums up the state of the company. Absolute shambles. Who cares if she potentially sells to old people, I’m sure there’s plenty of models who can sell to old people from their site, doesn’t mean they need to be an angel. Angels should be able to appeal to masses of people and should have the potential of being a star. Alexina is not a star and she doesn’t appeal to the masses. End of. Their inability to listen to what people want, yes even the people on Instagram and twitter (those are real voices), is one of the many reasons they keep on tanking. Horrible decision. 

Also at this point Barbara is doing VS more of a favor than anything. This is just another check and a childhood dream fulfilled for her. She doesn’t need them at all. 

More boring ass women although I’m sure some could look better if they didn’t style them so homely. 

They really don’t have a clue what theyre doing its sad 

15 hours ago, Siemgi said:

Doutzen is probably making a lot of money just l'Oréal, she has been working for them for years and she has other contracts.

I’m sure Douzten makes a decent buck but top 10? Not buying it. 

List is a bunch of hoopla. I mean Joan and Doutzen top10? It’s just not realistic. Props to their agents for trying to get them relevant again though. 

Does this mean they’re finally accepting their old ways are finished after the diabolical ratings? Knowing VS you can’t be too hopeful.

This is blowing up

Was better than any commercial VS mustered up this year. Those surgical procedures aren’t flattering her though. 

Tbh trans models aren’t exactly in abundance and they still have to have what it takes plus look convincing. It’s a lot easier said than done to just add transgender models to the show.

Ed still shouldn’t have said that stuff though but anyway 

VS can do as they please, but in this day and age it shouldn’t be said out loud. Not sure what possessed Ed to think he wouldn’t do damage with those comments. 

16 minutes ago, Corner said:

No, that’s just ABC/the networks’ ratings (mind you other US networks air the show as well).

I’m sure when they factor in the numbers from all the other countries, they ratings would obviously be great..

Also, VS can still say they’re the most watched fashion show on earth because they (still) are! No other brand comes close.. Obviously I can’t believe they reach 1.6 billion people because come on... the ratings were bound to keep plummeting because TV is dying and I literally don’t watch TV anymore and neither does any of my friends. We stream online just like everyone  else. In that case VS is still winning even if they seem to be losing. The fact that they’re already talking about next year’s show is pretty telling.

The show was talked about in literally  every social media platform. Just that is enough PR and exposure even before you factor in the TV ratings.

Also, whoever said Adriana wasn’t trending last night (for hours, I might add) obviously didn’t check Twitter 

 

I feel like you’re talking about me not sure, but um I never said Adriana wasn’t trending. Just in case you were.

Knew the ratings would be diabolical. Embarrassing ratings. Watch Ed still hype that mess up. What’s the ratings gonna be like next year? 2.3M? 

3.2 million views is lay offs territory. Everyone has got to go. Specifically Sophia, Monica, and Ed. Also so many of the artisans that they’ve been using for years straight and those production guys. ENOUGH.

i get the whole “if it isn’t broken don’t fix it” by its clearly been broken for years now

i get loyalty, but to me 5 years shows loyalty and that you appreacuated them. After that it’s time to go. You can’t have the same damn people in things like this that require so much creativity. 

If they continue like this I’m betting next year or the year after will be the last show. If they could even keep it slightly steady that’s one thing but it keeps dramatically dropping. 

1 hour ago, Light_Blue said:

I cannot see that, for me she is very unattractive. Glad everyone has their own taste

What is so unattractive about her? She looked like a Barbie...

Also Grace Bol killed it. Such a step up from last year! 

Wow just watched Candice’s walk in celestial...there’s just something these new angels do not possess. Lais got pushed to the background in her own opening. 

Just need a clip of Candice’s celestial walk and I’m good till an HD version of the full show pops up online. 

Saw a clip of Yasmin’s walk...she killed it idc what y’all say. I mean the sound was off but lmao 

edit: nah put on the sound still killed it. positive comments on twitter as well.  

1 minute ago, PinkCouture said:

 

I think most talk shows were on haitus last week,

Even an angel collaborating with a big YouTuber would be better than nothing. 

Just now, VSBODY said:

They did no promotion whatsoever. The angels used to go on late night/daytime talk shows to promote the show and this year they did nothing. So I don't know who even knew to tune in..

Saw no hype throughout today whatsoever. It barely trended and even in Adriana’s farewell show her name didn’t perform not even close to how it usually does during the show. I will be shocked if the ratings aren’t diabolical. 

Didn’t watch. Just waiting for the ratings to come through 

Anyway I see the ratings tanking even further this year, but we will see what a Sunday night will do for them. 

8 hours ago, bump said:

Ooh, is it really? See, I only really read here. I didn't know people really liked it.  I was HUGE Candice fan at the time (I still am a fan, just to a lesser extent) and I think I was all excited for her to have this great opening and it just fell flat for me. 

 

what I didn't like about her walk:

-too slow and sensual. I wanted upbeat and fierce "look everyone I'm here!!!" kinda energy.I wish she would've smiled as well. Fierce can be smiling or not smiling; what it's not is timid and reserved which is what I saw from her. 

-when she looked down to the right side halfway down the runway, it looked robotic and forced, like she just remembered she was supposed to be making eye contact with the camera

-her facial expression looked like she was bored, I mean hell I was super bored watching her. she looked like a mixture of nervousness and being bored. 

 

I hated her FB, too. I wish it had wings and I thought the colors were mega ugly. Candice looked beauitful, but I overall hated everything about her FB. Poor girl.

But then again 2013, was the WORST VSFS for me in terms of everything. 

 

I think Taylor would've done better if she had better music. Idk who Leela James is, but that song wasn't bad but it wasn't teh right fit for the VSFS. 

I would've had Taylor close the segment instead. I think she is so beautiful and such a good Angel, but some people are good at some things and not at others. 

 

Just as I expected. Nonsense.

18 hours ago, bump said:

 I think they should've given her the opening and I am so mad that VS let Taylor open because it was even worse than Candice's 2013 opening and that shit sucked. 

STILL trying it I see 💀

4 hours ago, Andrew Van Der Hypp said:

Taylor’s walk was so good during the rehearsal, which further proves that the performer was absolute garbage. They should’ve just made it a remix instead or hire someone else who actually knows how to sing that song. How humiliating for Taylor

I think it was the nerves. Plus this walk is still pretty bad.